Are the Toronto Maple Leaf really serious about trading Matthew Knies? It may take three pieces

Sportsnet 590 The FAN: Nick Kypreos on the Real Kyper & Bourne Show on the trade speculation around Toronto Maple Leafs forward Matthew Knies and what it might cost to get the Maple Leafs to move to move him.

** NHLRumors.com transcription

Kypreos: “So some of the names that I’m hearing, Sammy, and one of them on my buzz is Matthew Knies. That talk of trading him has not gone away, because Brad Treliving is gone, now John Chayka is in. It’s out there.”

Justin Bourne: “It doesn’t make sense.”

Kypreos: “To some it doesn’t. Like you.”

Sam McKee: “To some. To some.”

Bourne: “Hello, I’m some.”

Kypreos: “To others, it does make sense.”

McKee: “I’m some’s brother.”

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Bourne: “If you are doing this, then you’re rebuilding. You’re getting younger, right? Unless you’re just …”

Kypreos: “Not necessarily, not necessarily.”

Bourne: “They’re going to trade him for current players that are his age…”

Kypreos: “Yeah, yeah.”

Bourne: “… that are an improvement on Matthew Knies.”

Kyreos: “Well, it depends on if you value one for one, then you can have an argument that you’re not going to get better than Matthew Knies. But if you can turn Matthew Knies into three pieces.”

Bourne: “Oh, I don’t want your quarters for my dollar. I don’t want.”

Kypres: “I don’t think they’re quarters.”

Bourne: “So, you think that someone’s gonna say, “Yeah, we’ll give you our top pair D for Matthew Knies?”

Kypreos: “Possibly, and a first-rounder and a secondary player.”

Bourne: “I need to hear about this top pair D, who’s available.”

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Kypreos: “Listen. I don’t know what, but that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s the type of conversation that they’re having.”

Bourne: “Now, listen, I am okay with having the conversations and seeing what teams want to do. Of course, that is your job as the GM to do that. But the fact that this guy’s name has been out there as the way to improve this team, has been shocking. Like to me, he’s between these two cores that the Leafs seem to have right now. And he’s going to be a 32-goal, 75-point bruiser.”

Kypreos: “Here’s, here’s what, here’s what analytics or AI could tell them. That when you’ve got an asset like Matthew Knies, and others have assets like Matthew Knies, but one has no-moves or limited no-moves, and the other guy is completely free, you have the best chance to drive the best bargain or the best price out there for the guy who’s completely free. And that’s Matthew Knies. You are inviting upwards of 20 teams to bid on him, and you’re gonna get someone that may overbid. And that’s the value that the Leafs can get back.”

Bourne: “This is the Family Guy joke. No, it’s the boat for the mystery box. The mystery box could be anything, even a boat.”

Kypreos: “Your, your close-minded on, on your, the three pieces are going to be no good compared to him.”

Bourne: “I don’t think, any time you make a trade of a 24-year-old prime-age player, and you, and that’s the best player in the deal, you never win the trade. There are, I’m sure, exceptions to every rule.”

Kypreos: “What about a quality player in return, a pick this draft that could be 10, 11, 12, and a third piece.”

Bourne: “Okay. Yes, bring me your top pair D, so I can also draft …”

Kypreos: “That’s how they’re looking.”

Bourne: “(Albert) Smits,  (Carson) Carels, (Chase) Reid, (Keaton) Verhoeff. One of those.”

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McKee: “What numbers did you say again?”

Bourne: “Get out of here.”

Kypreos: “It would be, if they move him in the next few days, it’s to get back into that draft outside of
McKenna.”

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